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A Buddhist Answer to Craig’s God: Part 2 of A Critique of William Lane Craig’s Debate With Sam Harris

In the first part of this essay I tried to show how postulating God–any god or gods–as the source of morality is so beset by problems as to offer no refuge for the man or woman in the world who asks, in all seriousness, the ethical question What shall I do?  That there is an answer to this question I am certain, and the best answer I have found, the most complete and rigorously defined, lies in the teachings of the historical Buddha.

I say “historical” to delimit my source materials.  My interest here is in what Gotama’s answer to this question was, not what later followers and elaborators said he said.  For this we have as source the sutta pitaka, the “basket of discourses” found in the Pali Canon of the Theravada school and the only documents that can claim any meaningful direct link with Buddhism’s founder.  This is in no way to denigrate the later Mahayana and Vajrayana schools of Buddhism which have added substantitively to Buddhist technologies of liberation.  Simply, I have not the expertise (not to mention the time) to be all-encompassing; indeed, this discussion of the Buddha’s ethics will be at best preliminary, indicating possible answers to the questions addressed in the Craig-Harris debate.

In fact, I have already written on this subject.  Here is a quote from my “Ten Questions” essay in response to Daryl E. Wittmer:

What then is the purpose of ethical behavior?  The Buddha discusses this specific question innumerable times throughout the suttas.  In brief, one adopts sila (ethical precepts) specifically for the purpose of eliminating mental, verbal and physical actions that give rise to negative mental states, relationships and consequences that hinder mental culture (bhavana).  Also, we try to behave generously, graciously, and compassionately because such modes of deportment foster good mental states both within ourselves and others.  In other words, depending on what we think, say and do we have the power to increase or decrease suffering in ourselves and others.  Since the Buddha’s teaching is concerned entirely with the elimination of suffering (i.e. existential angst), ethical behavior is the bedrock upon which everything else must be built.  Without it, the attainment of higher states leading to [nirvana] is out of the question.

This really is the gist of it.  Ethics begin with a person confronting their vulnerable position in this world.  They are alone, even with others, for nobody can tell them how to live their life.  Even if others try (as they inevitably do), in the end it is their life.  They alone suffer the consequences and enjoy the fruit of what they have done.  They are responsible.  How, then, can they know what they should do, what is right and what is wrong?

Clearly this is not a question for simpletons or those endlessly lost in distractions.  I cannot ask my cat this question and expect him to hesitate next time he encounters a mouse.  Intelligence is required, maturity, reflection.  One must look and see what one has thought, said and done.  One must observe consequences, not only in one’s own life, but in the lives of others, living and dead.  Responsibility must be exercised.  Eventually, if one reaches out with the heart–this is what is called “compassion”–one understands, one feels, that the suffering and joy of others is in fact no different than one’s own.  One sees that thoughts, words, and actions are things that, once produced, live beyond you, but almost inevitably revisit you.  This is karma–the conditioning of one’s mind, body and life by the actions one has taken.

There is nothing mysterious or magical about this.  You think, you speak, you act.  These behaviors affect the world.  They affect others.  They affect you.  That influence in turn conditions your next thought, word or action.  Here we have, quite clearly, inescapably, cause and effect.  If you regularly ring the bell while eating, you will salivate at the bell, even in the absence of food.  You will have formed and shaped your own mind, thereby limiting or expanding your experience and possibilities.

What is the best way to live?  Which actions give rise to the greatest well being for the greatest number of beings?  (Note: this argument, as you can see if you’ve read the transcript, is quite close to Harris’, who has almost certainly been influenced by Buddhist thinking on this subject.)  A Stalin or Mao will never ask this question, or, if they do, will never reference anything beyond their immediate, self-absorbed concerns.  For more than intelligence is required.  Sensitivity, too, is paramount–hence the innumerable Buddhist trainings that are meant to open the heart to friendliness, sympathetic joy, and the suffering of others.  Only when these modalities are sufficiently mature can karma, in its broadest sense, mean anything to a person, thereby affecting the choices they make.

Ultimately, the Buddhist path converges on a total transformation of the human heart and mind.  It is transpersonal, transcendent, yet at the same time immanent, for the awakened one never loses sight of the fact that he or she is still in the world, related to other beings.  From an ethical standpoint, the selfless mind, the mind that has realized bodhi or anatta and undergone permanent transformation as a result, is the true source and ground of ethics.  Ethics converge on self-transcendence.  For where there is self, there is other, there is separation and division and conflict.  Ethics begin with an orientation toward non-duality or egolessness; they are  consummated and completed in the permanent realization of that state.

It should by now be obvious that Buddhist ethics differ radically from William Lane Craig’s definition of ethics.  In Craig’s view, morality is really just another word for obedience–if we obey God’s commands, we are judged ethical; if we do not, we are unethical.  It’s that simple.  In addition to the problems elaborated in the first part of this essay, it should be noted that ethics in Craig’s scenario are quite malleable.  If God says it is good to slaughter the heathens–and in some passages in the Old Testament he does–then murder is a virtue.  If he says “Love thy neighbor as thyself” then self-sacrifice and generosity are judged moral actions.  Morality is thus held hostage to the changing whims of a god through time.  The Spaniards were not in a position to criticize human sacrifice by the Aztecs on the basis of scripture.

I finish with one last quote from my “Ten Questions” essay:

But what if God tells a person to love their neighbor, to give to the poor, and to turn the other cheek?  And what if he or she does it?  Certainly they will be considered moral, perhaps even saintly.  And that is all well and good; it would be wonderful if more people followed such advice.  But I wonder: does such a person understand the purpose of ethics any better than, say, a puppy understands why its master wants it to sit, fetch or play dead?  I think not.  Ultimately, “doing God’s will” is a substitute for thinking and comprehension; it is simple obedience.  The person of faith may enthusiastically fulfill the commandments or do so grudgingly.  Either way, they will be fulfilled, but not because the person comprehends the purpose of ethical behavior.

True ethics, I posit, are not simply a matter of doing good.  More importantly, ethics must concern being good.  This is a totally different propostion, one that requires much more than simple obedience.  It requires intelligence, consideration, awareness and the long view.  Craig’s position cannot offer this.  The Buddha’s can.

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3 thoughts on “A Buddhist Answer to Craig’s God: Part 2 of A Critique of William Lane Craig’s Debate With Sam Harris

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  2. I was unable to post from the previous blog you made critiquing Craig’s debate with Sam Harris. From your first post, you are posing problems to Craig’s side without even understand the point of the argument, which was Objective Morality, which if you come from an Eastern Philosophy or Religion like Buddhism, Zen Buddhism, Bon Buddhism, Vedic and other related Hindu faiths, it is difficult to understand when people from these faiths have a difficult time understanding the differences between Objectivity/Reality vs Subjectivity/Relativism.

    Your points on which God is Craig talking about and your moral critique of the god from the bible are asking for points that Craig was not obligated to answer, considering that wasn’t the topic of the Debate, which Craig pointed that out to Harris when Harris was saying that the Judeo Christian God was a Moral Monster and that there were too many God, which they fall on another seperate topic such as the Problem of Morality, Morality from the Bible which are all answered by Paul Copan and Alvin Plantinga, or the topic about which God is real, which is a more broader topic, that should encompass science, what the religions of the world state as truth facts, compare them all and which world view is more consistent which Hugh Ross covers extensively (he looked into all of the world views, and compared their truth claims with scientific truths which he’s really qualified considering that he’s a Phd Cosmologists from CalTech [a more scientific prestigious university than MIT]).

    And the right question is not to ask which god is true but rather which world view because all of the polytheistic world views account for the majority of Gods in the world, and if you accept the premise that god is the greatest conceivable being, then vishnu and shiva should not be in the category or any kind of buddha as except Brahman, which you can’t know if he exists by measuring him but rather test the claims made in the Vedas with reality, such as the material universe being eternal which is false through the Big Bang Model which states that matter, energy and spacetime all began at the big bang so anything material could not be eternal. You have a lot of homework to do if you want to justify Buddhism over Christianity, anyways, for this post, I recommend you to not challenge Craig as he hardly ever debates against Buddhism, but rather I would enjoy if you challenged Dr. John Ankerberg’s response which are listed below the following links;

    (These pages describe John’s understanding of Buddhism)
    https://www.jashow.org/articles/apologetics-2/what-is-zen/
    https://www.jashow.org/articles/apologetics-2/the-theology-of-zen-buddhism/
    https://www.jashow.org/articles/languages/arabic/buddhism-and-jesus-christ/

    (These pages challenges Buddhist beliefs compared to Christianity)
    https://www.jashow.org/articles/apologetics-2/contradictory-teachings-in-zen-buddhism/
    https://www.jashow.org/articles/apologetics-2/does-zen-work-in-the-real-world/
    https://www.jashow.org/articles/apologetics-2/god-and-zen-buddhism/

    But if you feel that you are comfortable in the realms of scholarly philosophy, that is at the level of William Lane Craig, and you are too fixated with him, he did one post I believe critiquing Buddhism under philosophy and here’s the link to that page if you preferred to do a response to that,
    http://www.reasonablefaith.org/beliefs-of-buddhists

    • Hi Shushi,
      Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my post. If I had more time at my disposal I would respond at greater length, but these days I just don’t on account of work/business obligations. (This explains my discontinuing the blog almost two years ago.) Very briefly though, I will reiterate my main charge against Dr. Craig’s position:

      Any contention that ethics are derived from the commandments of an alleged deity or deities (take your pick which one(s)) is to confuse obedience for morality. This confusion represents a perversion not only of morality but also of reality. This is exactly what Craig has done and exposing this position’s incoherence was the point of my blog post.

      A couple other points and then I’ll stop:

      I am not a professional scholar or philosopher like Craig, but I don’t have to be to see the fallacy of his views. As for being “fixated with him”…well, I don’t take him or his positions seriously, so don’t feel particularly attached one way or another. I view him as a clown, a sort of Donald Trump of theology (itself the silliest and most vacuous of intellectual fields).

      Finally: I have never encountered a Christian (or believing monotheist, for that matter) who actually understood the Buddha’s teaching. Not once. Think about that…

      Feel free to reply if you wish. I’ll let you post, but will not respond further. Perhaps sometime in the future, if I do get the time and desire, I’ll answer comprehensively, but don’t hold your breath.

      Until then…

      Best wishes!
      Craig

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